Divinci speakers, junk speakers, a costly con

Do Not Buy Divinci D-6 Divinci DA6.1 D-50 Idf-52 OLin Ross OR-860Before buying on okay, or anywhere else for that matter, do the research, I have had many people send me a message after already buying Divinci speakers asking me about them. They are very cheaply made. Buy a brand you have heard of. Do a search on yahoo, google, or where ever, and make sure the item you are looking to buy is legit. If the deal looks like its too good to be true, it definitely is. Please take into mind that there are people out there looking to scam, but there are also those who may be trying to get their foot in the door with starting their own business, and found these great $3000 speakers for $50, and are trying to sell them on okay for usually $150-$400. There are tons of these kinds of people on okay selling cheap knock offs, not knowing that the items they are selling are cheaply made garbage. Most of these people are Drop-Shipping and they never have the actual product in their possession, so they don't know that what they are selling you is garbage. When I first started selling on okay I did Drop-Shipping, and after a negative feedback on one of the items, I ordered it from the site and had it shipped to me to test it. To make a long story short I never Drop-Shipped again, the item (speakers) was garbage. I learned from my mistake, and want to try and help others to not get scammed.Make sure you report this scam to :1) Local Law enforcement2) Local TV or Newspapers3) okayMost of these SpeakerFleas1) Do not obtain proper permits to "sell out of a Van"2) use lies, fraud, trickery and intimidation to make a sale3) Most do not collect,report or pay their required by law taxesfor sales and ingee4) You'll find these fraudulent/cheaply made items mostly at flea markets, and also on okayThe speakers are of exceptionally poor quality,typically obtained for less than $50 from a local distributor.The speakers themselves have been reported aspotentially damaging to any amplifier they are connected to.The risk of damage stems from an impedence curve that in some cases may dropbelow 2 ohms, which may overheat, short out, or permanently damage anamplifier not designed to handle such loads.White Van Scam:Guy in suv or van drives up to you has these $3000 speakers. You can have Them for a deal that you can't pass up.He will try to get you to give him $50 or more up to $1500.00 for these $40 china speakers (If they are even worth that).They will give you a cock and bull story about the extra home theater system he's got to unload.He will tell you it's worth something crazy like 2000 or 3000 dollarsshow all kinds of crap like receipts , invoices , magazines , ads sheets, etc. (which are all fake) He'll even point you to the gepany website to prove they are worth the 3 grand. (Divinci has a website, which is a pretty poor site for a gepany that has supposedly been around since the 80's). So when he lowers his price to $100.00 you'll think you got the deal of a lifetime. $3000 speakers for $ 100 bucks ,no you got a crap set of $40 (or Less) speakers and paid $100 or more for them.Just do a search for "white van speakers" or "Divinci" in a search engine.Watch out for the speaker guys in suv's or pickup trucks and vans selling home theater equipment. Many of the sales take place in the parking lots of Best Buy, Home Depot, Banks,Carwashes, Gas Stations, Construction sites, they are looking to rip you off!If you see them, Call the police, Get your phone out, Take a PICTURE, get the PLATE number and Call the policeLaw enforcement WILL issue citations, as rarely do the speakerguys obtain the proper permits and license to sell "out of a vehicle". In Pennsylvania, selling white van speakers is punishable by up to five years in prison and up to a fine of $10,000.a local newspaper or television news department might also be interested. This is a review I found by a speaker expert:these speakers have the worst Cheaply made geponents.The 'reviews' and 'guides' that speak positively of these speakers have undoubtedly been posted by those who stand to profit from the sale of them. Kirsch, Theatre Research, Genesis Media Labs (Genesis PHYSICS was a good brand in the 1980's) and DiVinci speakers, with their glossy ads and websites full of meaningless techno-babble and claims of outrageous 'retail' prices - no reputable retailer would carry them.There are good reasons why they are mostly sold out of the back of white vans, at flea markets, on okay, ect.. geparison to good equipment is impossible. Most recently peddlers of the Genesis Media Lab and DiVinci's have trumpeted an ad taken out by the gepany, and purchase of a booth at an electronics show as evidence that this is an established brand-when you have the kind of profit margins based upon $ 50 worth of geponents in a "$ 3600" package, I suppose you can afford a booth or an ad.Imagine if a peddler of fake Rolexes', or 'Rolex quality' watches posted a website claiming that their junk that cost maybe $ 50 to manufacture is worth thousands - that is basically the case we have here, or the coach purses and designer clothes that you can buy for next to nothing.if you read Wikipedia and other search results you obtain from Googling the term "White Van Speakers' or 'White Van Scam' the conclusion that the geponents are of 'exceptionally poor quality' is well founded."K803 Prodigy" speakers have been posted on E Bay for $1500 or more, yet superior drivers (the speaker drivers -woofers, tweeters, midranges and the like) can be had for $ 15 or less per driver. The internal electronics such as the crossovers, are by far, the absolute worst I've ever seen.The DiVinci hucksters have the nerve to advertise their 'high energy crossover', which is a $2 piece of junk - a good crossover is geplex, not inexpensive, and is critical to sound quality. Even the glossy cabinets are made of cheap, lightweight wood, whose resonances distort the already awful sound, and lack the internal bracing you will find on quality speakers.The drivers on the Kirsch and DiVinci "$ 3000 pair" (K803- DiVinci 1740-Dahlton- same speaker) are pretty much the same as on another set of these towers sold under an earlier "White Van Scam" name that a friend bought for $ 59 in a local pawn shop- one set of DiVinci's' is listed for $ 2500 buy it now - that is on line piracy.Just for fun, we gepared these Kirsch 803 beasts' to a pair of Infinty SM-255's bought off of E Bay for $ 300, using both analogue and digital sources, receivers and high end separate electronics. A sound level meter was used to ensure that the listening occured at the same volume level.One of the girlfriends said it best : the Kirsch sounded like a clock radio gepared to the Infinity's and one thought that a clock radio might sound better. Technical measurements confirmed what our ears told us - a ragged response curve that is the worst I've ever seen, bar none.Maybe it was unfair - the Infinity's weigh 77 pounds versus 28 for the Klipsch... er Kirsch - but then the Kirsch is a $ 3000 speaker, the Infinities were $ 1000 new ... the weight alone should tell you just what junk the White Van Speakers are. We also gepared the Kirsch with a vintage set of Klipsch KG-3.5's which you can get for around $ 200-250 - needless to say they blew the K-803 Prodigy away.We've also performed listening tests geparing the "$ 2495"- oh please - Kirsch K3 home theatre system to a vintage set of Infinity Qb speakers dating back to the 1980's, which you can buy for $ 150 or so; a Samsung Home Theatre in a box and to Logitech Z-5300 and Klipsch Pro Media 5.1 geputer speakers, hooked to a 5.1 receiver via the headphone jack ( a decent option for a small room).Experienced listeners suggested the best use of the Kirsch's was as a boat anchor or firewood, kids unanimously preferred the other sets and as one eloquently put it - ' the fancy ones stink like poo.' You would be much better off with a used set from Energy, Polk, or another quality speaker gepany.I also had the (dis) pleasure of listening to a set of the "$ 3600" DiVinci's often posted here - even the best electronics cannot make a silk purse out of these sow's ears. We gepared the DiVinci 607 model to a Polk RM-6800 5.1 home theater set up that can be had for $ 400 or less- $3200 less than theDiVinci's so called retail value.It was no contest-- as my 12 year old put it 'where did all the instruments go' - there was no category- NONE- imaging, detail, tightness of bass- you name it- where the DiVinci's were remotely gepetitive.Not only are the speakers unspeakably bad, the 'receivers' included with the DiVinci, Theatre Research, Digital Research and other "White Van Brands' lack even basic AV functions such as Dolby and DTS processing, and HDMI and geponent video outputs -as well as measuring and sounding horribly - try watching "Master and gemander" with one of these pieces of 'bleep'- a used Denon, Yamaha or Onkyo at any price is light years superior.With profit margins that would make oil gepanies jealous, I can see where they could now buy ads in magazines - one E Bay posting claims they are an 'established high end speaker' - you would have to be high to consider these anything but the low level junk they are. 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